Any province or city for that matter that doesn't have & manage their own police force is under federal gvt, i.e. Ottawa-rule. The federal gvt is lawless, 'nough said!
What ever date it is, isn't soon enough. Just got a letter from the rcmp, telling me to turn my gun over. I'm in Alberta, and they know that the Alberta government has told the rcmp you can't participate in the collection. Well we'll see who has the authority here. In the end it may boil down to me. The rcmp can take a flying leap of a fast moving train passing a deep water stream or lake. Which ever is closest.
Danielle Smith told the RCMP that Alberta Law Enforcement Agencies will not assist the RCMP with Ottawa's gun confiscation program. The RCMP have jurisdiction Canada wide. If you do not comply, you will be arrested by the RCMP and your guns seized. You need to give the RCMP a reply to their "order"; send them a letter telling them that the guns in question were lost in a "boating accident": You have no guns to turn over. Period. In the mean time, find your guns a damn good hiding spot. You have the right to remain silent: When the RCMP show up at your door, tell them that you do not answer questions.
What I don't see in this piece of legislation is public oversight. Sheriffs should be Elected, not selected. 87 ridings - 87 elected Sheriffs - 87 Agencies. The Sheriff is then accountable to the people and not the will of the politicians.
No. The rcmp are employed by Alberta. They follow the order of the province. They are not under any order from the feds. Their regulatory procedures are according to fed. and union rules. They are hired buy the province to enforce the law of the province, nothing more. They are hired out to the province. If the province says to take your gun they will. But the Alberta government has made it clear that that order is not applicable in Alberta. They will be dismissed for not following that order. Three or more provinces have made that stance.
Sounds like a good idea , as long as there is very good trainng and vetting of all tat apply for the job . look what happened down south when any Rambo wannabe or mall cop got the job in I C E NOTHING BUT TROUBLE . You need well trained people that can keep cool in a heated environment
But ICE was deporting Illegal Aliens. Many of them extremely violent gangs, cartels. Now Canada is full of millions of Illegal Aliens...those on expired visas, with zero removals, members in violent Sikh gangs extorting businesses with large numbers of illegal firearms. I'd prefer ICE handle that problem than the DEI RCMP.
Yes to a new organisation that owes no allegiance to Ottawa. BUT, instill in it the spirit of SERVICE to the public .. not one of ENFORCEMENT. The RCMP motto, "maintiens le droit" promises the right mission, but the Covid tyranny enforcers strayed far from such a noble intent.
Don't dress your servants of the law up like samurai warriors; lose the storm trooper trappings and sent them out clearly identified but NOT INTIMIDATING. Every member should be respectful and not demanding. Crime is not "right", going about our lives is "right", and members should have broad powers to distinguish on the scene. Train them well; pay them well; and weed out the bullies.
I'm definitely for anything that will get the federal, ostrich killing police out of our province...soon to be nation! They can go collect mandatory, voluntarily surrendered guns elsewhere!
Actually you don't have to hand any firearm over to the RCMP or anyone else until Oct 30/26. The way It appears now is that if you want to try to get paid for your so called banned firearm, you can declare your firearm on their website; Assault - Style Firearms Compensation Program. If you don't care if you get paid or not, and want to hang onto your firearm until October 30th, you can do that. I think we all are hoping that many will not turn in their firearms until the last day in Oct and in the meantime this confiscation may flop. Sask and AB have made it particularly difficult for firearms to be confiscated. If I lived in those two provinces I would hold out because they are more sympathetic to gun owners than say, BC in particular, and possibly some other provinces.
Any province or city for that matter that doesn't have & manage their own police force is under federal gvt, i.e. Ottawa-rule. The federal gvt is lawless, 'nough said!
So true!!!!
What ever date it is, isn't soon enough. Just got a letter from the rcmp, telling me to turn my gun over. I'm in Alberta, and they know that the Alberta government has told the rcmp you can't participate in the collection. Well we'll see who has the authority here. In the end it may boil down to me. The rcmp can take a flying leap of a fast moving train passing a deep water stream or lake. Which ever is closest.
Danielle Smith told the RCMP that Alberta Law Enforcement Agencies will not assist the RCMP with Ottawa's gun confiscation program. The RCMP have jurisdiction Canada wide. If you do not comply, you will be arrested by the RCMP and your guns seized. You need to give the RCMP a reply to their "order"; send them a letter telling them that the guns in question were lost in a "boating accident": You have no guns to turn over. Period. In the mean time, find your guns a damn good hiding spot. You have the right to remain silent: When the RCMP show up at your door, tell them that you do not answer questions.
What I don't see in this piece of legislation is public oversight. Sheriffs should be Elected, not selected. 87 ridings - 87 elected Sheriffs - 87 Agencies. The Sheriff is then accountable to the people and not the will of the politicians.
No. The rcmp are employed by Alberta. They follow the order of the province. They are not under any order from the feds. Their regulatory procedures are according to fed. and union rules. They are hired buy the province to enforce the law of the province, nothing more. They are hired out to the province. If the province says to take your gun they will. But the Alberta government has made it clear that that order is not applicable in Alberta. They will be dismissed for not following that order. Three or more provinces have made that stance.
Ah yes! I can see another stolen gun reported to the rcmp.
And then boot out the politicized-therefore-ineffective RCMP? Good move!
Outstanding.
Alberta should at least have as much decentralization as Quebec.
Yes, get those Ostrich killers out of our province!
Sounds like a good idea , as long as there is very good trainng and vetting of all tat apply for the job . look what happened down south when any Rambo wannabe or mall cop got the job in I C E NOTHING BUT TROUBLE . You need well trained people that can keep cool in a heated environment
But ICE was deporting Illegal Aliens. Many of them extremely violent gangs, cartels. Now Canada is full of millions of Illegal Aliens...those on expired visas, with zero removals, members in violent Sikh gangs extorting businesses with large numbers of illegal firearms. I'd prefer ICE handle that problem than the DEI RCMP.
You’re probably right
Don’t compare Canadian police to the US. Our police are better trained.
Fantastic... And get a separate currency too
Gotta love it!!!
This is called preparation. For What?
Yes to a new organisation that owes no allegiance to Ottawa. BUT, instill in it the spirit of SERVICE to the public .. not one of ENFORCEMENT. The RCMP motto, "maintiens le droit" promises the right mission, but the Covid tyranny enforcers strayed far from such a noble intent.
Don't dress your servants of the law up like samurai warriors; lose the storm trooper trappings and sent them out clearly identified but NOT INTIMIDATING. Every member should be respectful and not demanding. Crime is not "right", going about our lives is "right", and members should have broad powers to distinguish on the scene. Train them well; pay them well; and weed out the bullies.
I'm definitely for anything that will get the federal, ostrich killing police out of our province...soon to be nation! They can go collect mandatory, voluntarily surrendered guns elsewhere!
SO TRUE!!!
I think this is great!
Actually you don't have to hand any firearm over to the RCMP or anyone else until Oct 30/26. The way It appears now is that if you want to try to get paid for your so called banned firearm, you can declare your firearm on their website; Assault - Style Firearms Compensation Program. If you don't care if you get paid or not, and want to hang onto your firearm until October 30th, you can do that. I think we all are hoping that many will not turn in their firearms until the last day in Oct and in the meantime this confiscation may flop. Sask and AB have made it particularly difficult for firearms to be confiscated. If I lived in those two provinces I would hold out because they are more sympathetic to gun owners than say, BC in particular, and possibly some other provinces.
There’s always a ‘Be On High Alert’ caution whenever ‘Government’ and ‘Safety’ are advertised in the same sentence. Hear me now; believe me later!