A new study analyzing tobacco markets in 11 different countries found that over a third of cigarette consumption in Canada was of illicit tobacco, representing over $2 billion in lost tax revenue.
Well, who can blame the smokers if they can get a break in the cost of cigarettes. No, I do not like smoking, but I myself sin by eating chips from time to time. I also have a drink from time to time. Taxing cigarettes to that extent is simply robbery. And they feel they have the moral imperative to justify the THEFT. All they have to do is convince the rest of society that they are TRYING TO HELP, cloak their superior knowledge and care in compassion and they now have the right to tell YOU how to live. If you do not follow THEIR prescription YOU WILL BE PUNISHED.
If everyone were to quit smoking, the Provincial and federal government would lose a hell of a lot more than 2 billion dollars in taxation. The bottom line is the government does not give a damn about anyones health - all they want is your money; it's nothing more than legalized theft. 65% of a carton of cigarettes is Provincial and Federal government taxation.
Added to the base price of a carton of cigarettes:
$ 31.66 Federal exise tax - plus
$37.66 - $65.00 Provincial tax - plus
10 to 15% retailer profit - plus
5% GST. (They illegally place a tax the taxes)
Dependant upon where you live in Canada, a carton of cigarettes can cost anywhere between $135.00 to $195.00.
You place these taxes upon any other product, the public would become volatile; place them upon cigarettes, the public does not give a damn, and neither do the thieving politicians.
Well if the gov was not charging 20 bucks a pack vs 4 bucks maybe this would not be happening, so they say organized crime, so they are calling the Natives organized crime, hmmm.
I would consider the government organized crime, since they have an enforcement arm and a promotional arm, But they are really not that well organized.
Good, the way that smokers are ridden is obscene compared to the extent they ride drug and alcohol addicts. If the state considers addiction a mental illness then they are rapaciously taking advantage of people with mental illness. The government is a drug dealing parasite that has absolutely monopolized as they have done historically. They did the same to cane sugar, salt, opium. They do the same with fuel and energy, property ownership. And now instead of offering the health care services you thought people were going to get after taxing the hell out of people, you get offered maid papers.
Never having taken up this addictive habit myself, while I was a young kid watching my dad chain smoke himself to death, I really couldn't give a damn about "lost tax revenue due to the illicit sale of black market cigarettes."
The reason for smokers buying contraband cigarettes in the first place is because of the tax!
And don't tell me that it's "lost revenue" that could benefit the citizens of Canada. Governments are poor stewards of public funds, especially the Federal Liberals. If they were more accountable for what they spend we wouldn't have a deficit! RM
And who is responsible for contraband tobacco? First Nations Reservations, but the government encourages and condones even though it's bad for your health and banned everywhere else. I'm tired of double standards in this country.
The crime was the federal government for gouging tax pricing on tobacco and/or cigarettes. They created the illegal market. I don't smoke, feel sorry for those who do. They government should have been doing the educating in young school students to show them the consequences of smoking. And let them decide not to ever do it. But the government like alcohol or any other saw nothing but the tax rolling in.
This ex RCMP is a full on liar. You are NOT funding organized crime. What you're funding is native Americans and native Canadians. I, personally , would much rather give my money to them, than the government, or big tobacco. Philip Morris is funding these lies. Every study they've ever funded has been bs. Stop believing the crap they put out. The government loves to blame anyone but themselves, meanwhile it's their greed for tax money that causes the problem. We're supposed to be free, yet they insist on controlling EVERYTHING we do. What person, in their right mind, is going to pay $20 or $25 for a single pack of cigarettes, when you can get an entire carton for that? It's time the government went back to taking a lesser role in our lives and minding their own business
100%, like anyone backs the government that makes their money by making the citizens poor, I also support the natives for cigs, weed and whatever else they want to sell. Imagine putting people on reservations or they starve and then calling them criminals.
There is "1st" nations cannibis shop within 5 minutes from my home in Nepean (Ottawa) and their big advertisement is hi potency cannibis tax free, cash sales only. They've been there now for almost a year
Although not a user, it is a well-known fact that the cannabis supplied by the 1st nations is healthier. It does not have the poisonous, addictive chemicals added to it the same way the G-Parasites have modified their tax-grabbing cannabis. If the g-parasites are so concerned about health, how come the g-parasites have said nothing about the products "Coke and Pepsi" which have tons of sugar and other addictive chemicals added, which contribute hugely to diabetes and other diseases?????
So Hilarious!!! LOL! The corrupt communist liberal-ndp government mafia (g-parasites) is upset that the organized crime mafia is stealing funds that they (the g-parasites) could use for the corrupt Ukrainian money laundering scheme or to finance their European Banker friends...LOLOL! This can't get any stupider!!!
This is pretty funny, and a reminder that native land claims are an issue on which lawyers bill and build careers. Natives do not expect to be “given back their land rights.” They live on reserves, or integrate.
Native reserves have long been the sites for illegal trade, of cigarettes and drugs and gas, usually by the sons of chiefs, because, well, hierarchy!
It is NOT lost tax revenue, they have wanted people to quit forever so, really it is just as if a lot of people quit, they must now go after the vapes & weed just as hard and see what those outcomes reveal. They are hypocrites, they want the money but if people make different choices they get mad, what about leaving oil & gas in the ground to "save" the climate and all that money lost where they going to replace it with? Maybe they should have thought of it before....
Of course she should care. Alberta's revenue goes to the feds and then gets redistributed to the provinces as transfer payments. Without Alberta, we'd be bankrupt.
What? Alberta's revenue comes from the sale of oil, not from taxes. If pipelines were built to the coast, the more oil sold, the more revenue. Transfer payments only flow one way. Alberta transfers money to all provinces, including Ontario, which gets a huge share.
Thanks for that info. Trump just passed a psychedelic drug that if used once, maybe twice, drug, alcohol and tobacco addictions are gone for life. As well as suicidal thoughts, PTSD, anxiety - all gone. But Canadian politicians would rather use pharma and expensive treatments that don’t work. Ones that keep you forever in their grip. I’m losing faith in her. Money money money.
From independant, how did we become a society so dependent upon pharmaceutical drugs, alcohol, and other stimulants - just to make it through a single day? With all of the scientific knowledge that we supposably have, why are the hospitals not empty, but spilling over the top?
Trump is a saviour? What does Trump know about a human body, the brain, or the mind of a man or a woman? What does he personally know that matters? Trump passed "warp speed", a drug as you recall, that killed millions of people and permantly disabled millions of people in the USA, and Canada followed in lockstep. Has Trump shown any remorse? No, it's business as usual. Has any politcan anywhere on the planet shown any remorse? No, it's business as usual.
More to Bill's point, anything that grows naturally in nature cannot be patented. For example, the "tree" you mentioned, but did not identify; what is extracted from that tree, cannot be patented nor regulated. However, anything you add to that extract becomes "intelectual property" and thereafter can be patented. For Clarity. An Orange is a source of Vitamin C which cannot be patented. Extract the vitimin C from that Orange, add chemical flavors, caking agents, coloring agents, and so forth, your creation can be patented. (he who creates, owns) Being Vitimin C deficient causes sickness. Will a Doctor tell you to eat an Orange, or will he give you a pharmaceutical Drug, backed by President Trump, no less. Who is Trump working for? You, or Big Pharma?
What chemicals are in the food you eat, your water, your drinks, your cleaning supplies, your cosmedics, and the air you breathe both indoors and outdoors?
The food and drug administration; why are these agencies not separate, as they ought to be, but bonded together instead? Are the politcans working for you, or Big Pharma, a mulit-trillion dollar global empire?
The "Department of Defence" has been renamed ; it is now called the Department of War. Let that sink in. For something so liberating, why the secrecy? Let that sink in. "Quantum Medical Systems" = Quantum A.I. For the public to participate, a digital I.D. is required: "not optional", "not voluntary". "Mandatory". Let that sink in. The monitary system is set to collapse; "the Great Reset". Does this phrase "ring a bell"? Digital currency will take it's place. The D.O.W (what does that remind you of - the stock exchange?) the Department Of War (DOW - the industrial military complex) will be in full control of everyone in the USA; Canada (Mark Carney - now majority government) will follow in lockstep.
From your birth, there is an account that the government has never told you about. From your Birth, this Bond has created millions of dollars in your name, funds to pay all of your expenses: your Medical, your Utilities, your transportation, your Home, your legal expenses, and your incarceration; all things necessary for your survival and prosperity. Taxation has always been a Hoax. The notice states: All patient billing through private insurance carriers will be phased to zero; what they are not saying is you never needed it in the first place. When you go to the Bank to buy a home, the minute you sign the contract your home has been fully paid for; the money has been extracted from your multi-million dollar bond. The Mortgage along with the interest you are paying is 100% fraud. The document you have read has fully exposed this fraud.
I’m aware of all of this but from what I’ve been told by numerous people, he is against globalism. He’s crushing the Fed as we speak. EU, namely Britain, won’t hold the cards on our money any longer.
Just a money grab to appease lobbyists who invest. If psychadelic drugs cured all those things we wouldn't have them, many people people who did those drugs still smoke ,drink,and do other drugs and some of those psychadelics give suicidal thoughts like a bad acid trip or peyote button of impending doom.
In the past tobacco was used unadultured for ceremonies and was considered a sacred plant,the natives have used it forever for enlightenment and healing properties,the ones they sell at stores are nothing like those strains. Today they add toxic chemicals to make them addictive and grow for mass production to make profit. The natives have full rights due to treaties respecting cultureand the government can never take it away from them without force.This holds true for many plants including cannabis.
Well, who can blame the smokers if they can get a break in the cost of cigarettes. No, I do not like smoking, but I myself sin by eating chips from time to time. I also have a drink from time to time. Taxing cigarettes to that extent is simply robbery. And they feel they have the moral imperative to justify the THEFT. All they have to do is convince the rest of society that they are TRYING TO HELP, cloak their superior knowledge and care in compassion and they now have the right to tell YOU how to live. If you do not follow THEIR prescription YOU WILL BE PUNISHED.
If everyone were to quit smoking, the Provincial and federal government would lose a hell of a lot more than 2 billion dollars in taxation. The bottom line is the government does not give a damn about anyones health - all they want is your money; it's nothing more than legalized theft. 65% of a carton of cigarettes is Provincial and Federal government taxation.
Added to the base price of a carton of cigarettes:
$ 31.66 Federal exise tax - plus
$37.66 - $65.00 Provincial tax - plus
10 to 15% retailer profit - plus
5% GST. (They illegally place a tax the taxes)
Dependant upon where you live in Canada, a carton of cigarettes can cost anywhere between $135.00 to $195.00.
You place these taxes upon any other product, the public would become volatile; place them upon cigarettes, the public does not give a damn, and neither do the thieving politicians.
A better way of looking at this is Canadian consumers saved over 2 billion in taxes.
Well if the gov was not charging 20 bucks a pack vs 4 bucks maybe this would not be happening, so they say organized crime, so they are calling the Natives organized crime, hmmm.
I would consider the government organized crime, since they have an enforcement arm and a promotional arm, But they are really not that well organized.
100% the gov are the criminals.
Good, the way that smokers are ridden is obscene compared to the extent they ride drug and alcohol addicts. If the state considers addiction a mental illness then they are rapaciously taking advantage of people with mental illness. The government is a drug dealing parasite that has absolutely monopolized as they have done historically. They did the same to cane sugar, salt, opium. They do the same with fuel and energy, property ownership. And now instead of offering the health care services you thought people were going to get after taxing the hell out of people, you get offered maid papers.
Never having taken up this addictive habit myself, while I was a young kid watching my dad chain smoke himself to death, I really couldn't give a damn about "lost tax revenue due to the illicit sale of black market cigarettes."
The reason for smokers buying contraband cigarettes in the first place is because of the tax!
And don't tell me that it's "lost revenue" that could benefit the citizens of Canada. Governments are poor stewards of public funds, especially the Federal Liberals. If they were more accountable for what they spend we wouldn't have a deficit! RM
And who is responsible for contraband tobacco? First Nations Reservations, but the government encourages and condones even though it's bad for your health and banned everywhere else. I'm tired of double standards in this country.
The gov doesn't seem to have a problem with the natives when it comes to land acknowledgement.
I used to buy contraband smokes but I now live in Mexico where they’re 30 cents a pack.
The crime was the federal government for gouging tax pricing on tobacco and/or cigarettes. They created the illegal market. I don't smoke, feel sorry for those who do. They government should have been doing the educating in young school students to show them the consequences of smoking. And let them decide not to ever do it. But the government like alcohol or any other saw nothing but the tax rolling in.
This ex RCMP is a full on liar. You are NOT funding organized crime. What you're funding is native Americans and native Canadians. I, personally , would much rather give my money to them, than the government, or big tobacco. Philip Morris is funding these lies. Every study they've ever funded has been bs. Stop believing the crap they put out. The government loves to blame anyone but themselves, meanwhile it's their greed for tax money that causes the problem. We're supposed to be free, yet they insist on controlling EVERYTHING we do. What person, in their right mind, is going to pay $20 or $25 for a single pack of cigarettes, when you can get an entire carton for that? It's time the government went back to taking a lesser role in our lives and minding their own business
100%, like anyone backs the government that makes their money by making the citizens poor, I also support the natives for cigs, weed and whatever else they want to sell. Imagine putting people on reservations or they starve and then calling them criminals.
Totally agree!!! Two thumbs up to our native communities!!
"$2 billion in lost revenue"....$2 billion that won't get sent to Ukraine or some other country! lol
There is "1st" nations cannibis shop within 5 minutes from my home in Nepean (Ottawa) and their big advertisement is hi potency cannibis tax free, cash sales only. They've been there now for almost a year
Although not a user, it is a well-known fact that the cannabis supplied by the 1st nations is healthier. It does not have the poisonous, addictive chemicals added to it the same way the G-Parasites have modified their tax-grabbing cannabis. If the g-parasites are so concerned about health, how come the g-parasites have said nothing about the products "Coke and Pepsi" which have tons of sugar and other addictive chemicals added, which contribute hugely to diabetes and other diseases?????
I am in Vanier (Ottawa), and there is a similar shop around five minutes' walk from my home.
So Hilarious!!! LOL! The corrupt communist liberal-ndp government mafia (g-parasites) is upset that the organized crime mafia is stealing funds that they (the g-parasites) could use for the corrupt Ukrainian money laundering scheme or to finance their European Banker friends...LOLOL! This can't get any stupider!!!
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So they are complaining on not making taxes on cigarettes but literally tax us on everything 🙄
This is pretty funny, and a reminder that native land claims are an issue on which lawyers bill and build careers. Natives do not expect to be “given back their land rights.” They live on reserves, or integrate.
Native reserves have long been the sites for illegal trade, of cigarettes and drugs and gas, usually by the sons of chiefs, because, well, hierarchy!
Anyone who lives near a reserve knows this.
It is NOT lost tax revenue, they have wanted people to quit forever so, really it is just as if a lot of people quit, they must now go after the vapes & weed just as hard and see what those outcomes reveal. They are hypocrites, they want the money but if people make different choices they get mad, what about leaving oil & gas in the ground to "save" the climate and all that money lost where they going to replace it with? Maybe they should have thought of it before....
Meanwhile, the so-called government has sent $6.7 billion in weapons and money to Ukraine and Izra Hell.
Good! Smith was complaining about it too. Why should she care? It’s federal taxes, not Alberta’s.
Of course she should care. Alberta's revenue goes to the feds and then gets redistributed to the provinces as transfer payments. Without Alberta, we'd be bankrupt.
I’m quite aware of that.
Ontario pays much more transfer payments than Alberta.
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What? Alberta's revenue comes from the sale of oil, not from taxes. If pipelines were built to the coast, the more oil sold, the more revenue. Transfer payments only flow one way. Alberta transfers money to all provinces, including Ontario, which gets a huge share.
Wendy, don't kid yourself.
Alberta Taxation: $55.00 per carton. Federal excise Tax: 31.66 per carton - plus GST.
Plus retailer's 10 to 15% profits, the price per carton: $155.00 - $165.00.
Thanks for that info. Trump just passed a psychedelic drug that if used once, maybe twice, drug, alcohol and tobacco addictions are gone for life. As well as suicidal thoughts, PTSD, anxiety - all gone. But Canadian politicians would rather use pharma and expensive treatments that don’t work. Ones that keep you forever in their grip. I’m losing faith in her. Money money money.
From independant, how did we become a society so dependent upon pharmaceutical drugs, alcohol, and other stimulants - just to make it through a single day? With all of the scientific knowledge that we supposably have, why are the hospitals not empty, but spilling over the top?
Trump is a saviour? What does Trump know about a human body, the brain, or the mind of a man or a woman? What does he personally know that matters? Trump passed "warp speed", a drug as you recall, that killed millions of people and permantly disabled millions of people in the USA, and Canada followed in lockstep. Has Trump shown any remorse? No, it's business as usual. Has any politcan anywhere on the planet shown any remorse? No, it's business as usual.
More to Bill's point, anything that grows naturally in nature cannot be patented. For example, the "tree" you mentioned, but did not identify; what is extracted from that tree, cannot be patented nor regulated. However, anything you add to that extract becomes "intelectual property" and thereafter can be patented. For Clarity. An Orange is a source of Vitamin C which cannot be patented. Extract the vitimin C from that Orange, add chemical flavors, caking agents, coloring agents, and so forth, your creation can be patented. (he who creates, owns) Being Vitimin C deficient causes sickness. Will a Doctor tell you to eat an Orange, or will he give you a pharmaceutical Drug, backed by President Trump, no less. Who is Trump working for? You, or Big Pharma?
What chemicals are in the food you eat, your water, your drinks, your cleaning supplies, your cosmedics, and the air you breathe both indoors and outdoors?
The food and drug administration; why are these agencies not separate, as they ought to be, but bonded together instead? Are the politcans working for you, or Big Pharma, a mulit-trillion dollar global empire?
https://x.com/paulgoldeagle/status/2047904247292019051?s=10
The "Department of Defence" has been renamed ; it is now called the Department of War. Let that sink in. For something so liberating, why the secrecy? Let that sink in. "Quantum Medical Systems" = Quantum A.I. For the public to participate, a digital I.D. is required: "not optional", "not voluntary". "Mandatory". Let that sink in. The monitary system is set to collapse; "the Great Reset". Does this phrase "ring a bell"? Digital currency will take it's place. The D.O.W (what does that remind you of - the stock exchange?) the Department Of War (DOW - the industrial military complex) will be in full control of everyone in the USA; Canada (Mark Carney - now majority government) will follow in lockstep.
From your birth, there is an account that the government has never told you about. From your Birth, this Bond has created millions of dollars in your name, funds to pay all of your expenses: your Medical, your Utilities, your transportation, your Home, your legal expenses, and your incarceration; all things necessary for your survival and prosperity. Taxation has always been a Hoax. The notice states: All patient billing through private insurance carriers will be phased to zero; what they are not saying is you never needed it in the first place. When you go to the Bank to buy a home, the minute you sign the contract your home has been fully paid for; the money has been extracted from your multi-million dollar bond. The Mortgage along with the interest you are paying is 100% fraud. The document you have read has fully exposed this fraud.
So once again, Is Trump your savior?
I’m aware of all of this but from what I’ve been told by numerous people, he is against globalism. He’s crushing the Fed as we speak. EU, namely Britain, won’t hold the cards on our money any longer.
Just a money grab to appease lobbyists who invest. If psychadelic drugs cured all those things we wouldn't have them, many people people who did those drugs still smoke ,drink,and do other drugs and some of those psychadelics give suicidal thoughts like a bad acid trip or peyote button of impending doom.
Some have, yes. This particular drug (from a tree) has been used and studied for decades in countries such as Mexico. Among many more. It’s verified.
In the past tobacco was used unadultured for ceremonies and was considered a sacred plant,the natives have used it forever for enlightenment and healing properties,the ones they sell at stores are nothing like those strains. Today they add toxic chemicals to make them addictive and grow for mass production to make profit. The natives have full rights due to treaties respecting cultureand the government can never take it away from them without force.This holds true for many plants including cannabis.
There are provincial taxes on tobacco as well.